You’re sure? I don’t know about you but I’m done considering that it’s true, this 2:36 thing. No there’s like blank. He advised me to do the same, just toss it all out he said, because it’s subjective, it’s hindsight, and also, people tend to bend their memories to what they think police think they want to hear. Wouldn’t they have noted it? It was a picture like a reward paper. Our next episode, Episode 10, will come out December 4th. Special thanks today to Jonathan Goldstein, Paul Mcardle from the Baltimore Sun, Hyun Joo Lee, Martha Kang, Yung Chang, Blake Morrison and Bob Versus. At this point Adnan asked for a lawyer. It messed with her, as did Adnan’s arrest and conviction. Today, I made these omelettes with caramelized apples in them, and onions. She’s going to lose her son forever. All of the things that I’m unclear about or kinda shaky about, or-- I am clear on that. Summer was friends with Hae. With her father in California or with her new boyfriend, who knows? I’m like, well I can’t-- the situation isn’t really conducive for me to go to the T-Mobile store right? Sarah Koenig After all, no one actually testifies to the 2:36 timing at trial. well Adnan, we’re gonna match your boots, we’re gonna process your car--” and at some point he did mention some red gloves. I would like to forgive Adnan Syed but as of now, I just don’t know how to do that and I just cannot do that right now.” It would be hard to understand, you spend hours sitting in bullpens waiting. The Dallas Cowboys her favorite team, not because she cared about football but because she liked the colors blue and silver. Adnan Syed ”? At the end of the day, who can I-- I never should have let someone hold my car. As long as I live, my daughter is buried in my heart. He wanted to call Detective O’Shea but when he called the precinct he wasn’t there. This wasn’t a crime of passion.” She said to Adnan, you planned it, “you used that intellect, you used that physical strength, you used that charismatic ability of yours that made you the president or the- what was it?- the king or the prince of your prom? Adnan called the Baltimore County Police Department to talk to Detective O’Shea. That was likely Officer Adcock. I can imagine how you’d seize these kindnesses and that they’d nestle into your brain forever. Sarah Koenig That conviction, of course was for killing Hae, Krista’s good friend. First, remember Laura, the former Laura Estrada Sandoval the one who asked “well then who the fuck did it?” in the last episode? Does it look like her to you? Serial is a podcast from the creators of This American Life. Adnan Syed The night that we found out that she had been murdered. They he’d said things like “It’s not her, they’ve got the wrong person. He told me he had weed in the car and was worried the cops were going to find it if they came to talk to him. Again, that’s SerialPodcast.org. The two most important people to me in the world are my mother and father. Sarah Koenig The one detective, his name was MacGillivary, he one thing that he stated was “hey man, I don’t condone what you did but I have an ex-wife, or I just went through a divorce or something, I can understand how you can get mad.” Help on all things financial from Seth Lind. Mereka adalah Kristen Anderson-Lopez dan Robert Lopez (Frozen), yang menulis lagu-lagu unik untuk beberapa episode, mulai dari … When I first came here I didn’t know what the heck was going on. Cathy testified at trial about this call, how Adnan was acting panicked. The pay phone in question is important because Jay tells the detectives that Adnan called him on January 13, 1999 and told Jay he’d killed Hae. Do you have any questions about making that election? Episode 7: The Opposite of the Prosecution, Episode 10: The Best Defense is a Good Defense. Becky saw her right after school. 9-1-1 is a joint production between Reamworks, Ryan Murphy Television, and … There’s no, there was never any phones at Best Buy. 6:07, 6:09 and 6:24. None of Adnan’s friends saw anything strange in his behaviour. What am I gonna say? “I’ll be out by graduation, maybe by summer, maybe by whenever.” It fades a little more the closer he gets to trial. He is bound over to the adult system for an additional 6 years of prison time. Administrative support from Elise Bergerson. Now I can really say anywhere.” He tells her he’s gotten elected to Inmate Council. What it’s like now to be locked up for so long. Often when Adnan tells stories about this time, he zeros in on some small moment when someone was kind to him. I’m not talking about the courtroom kind, I’m talking about the normal person kind. His initial report records the time as 5:12 p.m. Adcock calls Aisha and Adnan asking if they’ve seen Hae. Cristina Gutierrez You know I’ve been blessed in that I can make friends almost anywhere I go. I mean, this jerk is going to get up and give away the only thing I have, my innocence.” It was a looser place than where he is now, at North Branch, in Cumberland. At the end of the day, if I had been just a good Muslim, somebody that didn’t do any of these things. Adnan Syed Adnan’s had only had one infraction his entire time. Laura Estrada Sandoval Summer says “no way no how” Hae was at Best Buy at 2:36. He’s got a group of friends he’s close with, guys who came into the system the same time he did. Maybe because he doesn’t know the State’s timeline for the murder yet. While most guys are really protective of their pictures, someone’s always pulling me aside to show me their latest flick. “Your honor, I would ask that this honorable court, if it would consider this case more a crime of passion than of intent to kill.” From Adnan’s letter, “that’s all I heard him say, and I turned and just stared at him, wanting to hit him with a chair or something. Laura Estrada Sandoval Anupama Cast: Rupali Ganguly, Sudhanshu Pandey, Paras Kalnawat, Muskan Bamne. He advised me to do the same, just toss it all out he said, because it’s subjective, it’s hindsight, and also, people tend to bend their memories to what they think police think they want to hear. In Jessup, especially, people got away with all kinds of craziness. That’s just the most frustrating thing in the world. There’s probably anywhere from fifty to a hundred people so everyone’s just sitting there. At least we’re gonna have that feeling that he’s somewhere where he doesn’t deserve to be.” They don’t necessarily worry about me being in prison because they come to see me and they see that I’m fine. She said probably at around 2:30, 2:45. So in a way it was a step toward the thing he wanted. Giant events kept coming, one after the other. There’s no phones there. They all sat there at Aisha’s kitchen table crying. Editorial help this week from Nancy Updike and Joel Lovell. You never get a chance to say anything. Eventually, Joshua is bound over to the adult system, which, it turns out – he prefers.. You used that to manipulate people and even today, I think you continue to manipulate even those that love you, as you did to the victim. Well you can blame Jay if you think he’s lying. It’s a huge risk to open your client up to cross examination and impeachment. The school nurse testified at Adnan’s first trial that she thought he faked a catatonic state. It was terrifying and sad. Then it was just a few weeks then I was arrested. Can we all agree that whatever happened to Hae probably didn’t involve a 2:36 p.m. call. 2:36 would not have been possible for her. Serial is produced by Julie Snyder, Dana Chivvis and me. I used to steal CDs from there all the time. They’re gonna come talk to me. Don’t say you’re innocent, it will anger the judge.” Adnan argues with him, and according to Adnan the lawyer says, “well you can do it if you want but you’re just going to fuck yourself over.” Play Season One: Episode 09: To Be Suspected They have a little breakfast club that he’s in charge of, another guy does lunch. “Take a look at it and tell me what you think. This week’s panel includes Plain Dealer reporter Rachel Dissell and criminal defense attorney Andrea Whitaker. Don’t say you’re innocent, it will anger the judge.” Adnan argues with him, and according to Adnan the lawyer says, “well you can do it if you want but you’re just going to fuck yourself over.”. Sarah Koenig No. Season 1, Episode 2. He’d never felt hated before. Hae’s family knows about the podcast and does not want to get involved. Why would you not get up there and defend yourself? I think we can all stipulate that Adnan was super stoned. He wanted to call Detective O’Shea but when he called the precinct he wasn’t there. They discuss religion and God, their problems. That’s right. The judge, Wanda Heard, disagreed with Adnan’s attorney at sentencing. The Zodiac Killer. With her father in California or with her new boyfriend, who knows? Summer We went inside and Adnan was sitting at the kitchen table crying. Hae’s brother called the cops that afternoon. But it is true that Adnan has always been fine in prison. Julie Snyder This must be just some huge mistake. Laura said, that’s because it never was. Sarah Koenig It’s the final episode of Serial season three, and we return to Joshua, the teenager who is left in limbo in Ohio Department of Youth Services custody. | Here’s the guy she knew. I mean, no way, I had absolutely nothing to do with Hae’s murder but at the end of the day-- I can’t-- yeah. I talked to a woman named Summer. I think we can all stipulate that Adnan was super stoned. I mean dirty. You didn’t think he meant you’re never going home. There were never any phones around the Best Buy. Adnan Syed Directed by Rob Bowman. Being an entrepreneurial sort he ran a couple of side businesses, printing stuff and making copies for people. Laura Estrada Sandoval To me it came across as being something like encouragement or some advisement. I’m very positive. Sarah Koenig It’s not, there’s no way that she was at Best Buy at 2:36. You know, you’re face to face, he’s right there, he’s a person. Adnan’s attorney then addresses the court. © 2014 - 2021 Serial Podcast I was giving her hell because I’m telling her “I don’t know what I’m doing.” I needed her because we had to take points and things like that and she’s like “No no no, I just have to go and you know, pick my little cousin up.” It’s just so frustrating because you want to keep interrupting and say “Hold. Krista There is an enormous quotient of utter boredom and exhaustion built in. What my family goes through. Summer had a boyfriend who did sports at Woodlawn and she wanted an excuse to stay after school too so she could hang around with them. But I gotta say, if you think the Best Buy is too public a place to commit a murder, you should see the library after school, swarming with kids. Yeah because you’re paying attention. “hey man, just have faith.” To me it came across as an encouragement, he wasn’t saying it to taunt me or anything. Sarah Koenig I just didn’t know what else to do and it was going on for so long. Combine that if you want with old information from Asia McClain who says she saw Adnan at around 2:30, 2:45 at the Woodlawn Public Library. She’d been to the trial every day I think. Krista was good friends with Hae and Adnan, she was Krista Myers back then. June 8. By this time, he’d fired Christina Gutierrez over the Asia letters and he’s being represented by a public defender he doesn’t really know. Everyone kept coming up to me, hugging me, it was just so much, so many people were like, “Are you OK? If you were to say “what was the thing I was worried about the most?” it would be upsetting him. It’s impossible. Not close friends but they had a class together and they joked around and talked. I’m like “alright, cool.” MailChimp. I confess to having reasonable doubt about whether Adnan killed Hae. “You know what’s really weird? Again, you’ve heard this information before but I’m going to review it now. Three things I’ve learned. There are a few pieces of evidence we haven’t been able to track down these last 15 months. Krista is clear eyed, organised and thoughtful. Watch fullscreen. If the “she’s dead, come and get me” call wasn’t at 2:36 maybe it’s the next incoming call on the log, the 3:15 call. Summer Sarah Koenig Possible timelines of the events of January 13, 1999, based on Adnan's memory, court records, and three of Jay's statements: his first two recorded statements to the police and his testimony at the second trial. Kelsey Asbille and Kelly Reilly in ‘Yellowstone’ season 2 episode 9 (Photo Credit: Paramount Network) As difficult as it is to accept, we’ve arrived at the penultimate episode of Paramount Network’s Yellowstone season two. Yes ma’am. We know this because she said, “I disagree with you, Council. People didn’t know what to think of me. Anupama Cast: Rupali Ganguly, Sudhanshu Pandey, Paras Kalnawat, Muskan Bamne. She was polite. So, imagine for a second that Adnan is talking to Aisha and says something like-- Some of it is due to the fact that I’m a Muslim and a lot is due to my personality. Detectives found this note from Hae to Don in Hae's car, when they recovered it on February 28, 1999. I never, not one time, thought they actually believed that I killed Hae. Summer was friends with Hae. This is our final episode this season, so we have some special thank yous. The eighth grade teacher whose name he can’t remember who wrote him that nice letter. She was polite. That was about to change, but at that point he says that he was thinking of his sentencing as a procedure he needed to get through so he could immediately start the appeals process. He dresses, sees his mother is watching, his older brother, his little brother Yusuf is crying. The mechanics, the documentation, the steps that they took, they look good. After a while he said that there had to be a mistake and that Hae was still alive because her name was written in Aisha’s agenda book. Which, a guy at the DOC told me, was impressive for anyone. Log in. Once, early on, I asked Adnan, “If you’re saying you’re innocent, why aren’t you bitter and angry, why do you sound so calm?” And he said a lot of things, then and since, because there’s no one answer. A map of the relationships between some of the main people in the story. Summer said this conversation about Hae not getting on the bus happened after the last bell and also after the regular school buses had cleared the loop in front of the school. Thing two I learned, it also relates to this 2:36 call. Krista No way did I, and I’m pretty sure they didn’t either, imagine that she would turn up, dead, murdered, her body would be found. That’s Adnan not testifying. Our theme song is by Nick Thorburn, and remixed by Adam Dorn. The first one, he writes it while he’s in what’s called the bullpen, waiting to be sentenced. When it’s Adnan’s turn to speak, he suddenly realizes he has no idea what to say. Adnan tells the guy he wants to tell the court he did not kill Hae and that he is going to continue to fight this until the end. Learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools. Adnan Syed Besides, they said it was a strange time for everyone. He knows that’s what’s about to happen. Serial - Episodes 6 and 7 - Assignment 6. Can we all agree that whatever happened to Hae probably didn’t involve a 2:36 p.m. call from that phone booth saying “Come and get me I’m at Best Buy”? You’re sure that this is the day because it’s the day she didn’t show up? “Did you get that really expensive prom dress you wanted and who’d you go with if you don’t mind me asking. the contradiction in that is that it would actually be easier for them to deal with me being in prison if they knew that I deserved to be here. That she loved the movie Titanic, that she sometimes put nail polish on just so that she could pick it off. She tells the court about a Korean proverb that says, when parents die, they’re buried in the ground, but when a child dies, you bury the child in your heart. Adnan says the detectives left the room for a while, then came back. But she’s like oh no, just take it! It’s the mandatory sentence for his conviction. January 10, 2018. (pause) It’s something that weighs heavily on me. No there’s like blank. And then you have me, light skinned and quiet. I’m like thanks a lot. Let me put it to you like this - I’ve seen more than I’d wanted to of a lot of people’s wives or girlfriends to last a lifetime. This must be just some huge mistake. Which will not come out next week. At the sentencing, listening to Hae’s mother, that was the first time Adnan understood how people on Hae’s side of the courtroom saw him. I mean, first of all, everyone in here is black and always threatening to beat the hell out of someone else. Adnan helped plan a memorial for Hae at school. Man, some guys in here get some really dirty pictures. It was just so many emotions, wondering how the heck could something like this happen to her. There was the sheriff’s deputy who looked like Judd Hirsch who slipped him a candy bar. In May he turned eighteen and then moved over to be with the adults. There’s a whole method, but you’re very aware of who’s entering and who was there at the entrance and when you’re leaving, because you’re fucking stealing and man, there’s no phones there. Here’s the guy she knew. “When I die, when I die my daughter will die with me. I thought I spoke to him after the police called him.” They both came in again and that’s when they basically slid the paper to me and slid it on top of the Metro Crime Stopper Bulletin and that’s where it said, it had the seal of Baltimore City in the top left hand corner and it said Charging Document or Statement of Charges and it said “Adnan Syed did wilfully premeditated and with malice aforethought or deliberately murder or kill Hae Min Lee on such and such day” and it said “Punishable by First Degree Murder and in the State of Maryland it’s punishable by the death penalty.” So it said “Death Penalty” and so that’s when they said you’re being charged with Hae Lee’s murder. What am I gonna do? We return to Joshua, the teenager in custody of the Ohio Department of Youth Services (ODYS). Whatever you can. Life couldn’t stop. I am positive. Really? Sarah Koenig Sarah Koenig OK, now that we’re caught up, let’s go back to our regularly scheduled programme. It messed with her, as did Adnan’s arrest and conviction. “You should send me some pictures. I don’t have the CDs. Our website where you can listen to all our episodes and find photos, letters, and other documents from the case, and sign up for our weekly emails, SerialPodcast.org. I mean, like, I mean it’s just impossible. It’s impossible. No ma’am. This graphic lays out the details of those differences. Sarah Koenig To remain silent. We still love him, we still are going to take care of him, we still are going to make-- he’s our son. Serial podcast review: what we learnt from episode 9, To Be Suspected This week on the Serial podcast, three new pieces of information appear to punch holes in the prosecution's timeline of events Wait wait wait. Laura thought it wasn’t a big deal to them. 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