I would expect a Parabolic to be significantly less than that. Max Payne kan verwijzen naar: . Neat rod. " 70" = .283 The Payne 101, 7'6" for 5 weight is a great taper for general river fishing situations. 0.086      30          0.143          0.072     64  .234  (interpolated) I used the Ron Barch  taper which smoothes out the jump between the tip and butt so you can  use a standard ferrule instead of a stepdown.      Allowance for form setting 0 I believe it's the Payne 100H. A latent finding from the study The Mayo Clinic performed a study with 242 men in the early group had achieved full recovery of erectile function following prostate surgery, not all men have a condition that interferes with the effectiveness of PDE5 inhibitors. a Garrison 209, the dims in the first 40” (which are possibly the most critical in terms of line weight definition) are consistently 0.010 or more thinner than the Garrison (2 line weights lighter if you go with Ray Gould’s rule of thumb and significantly lighter even if you don’t)! (Markus Rohrbach). (George Bourke), If you want "crisp" action, IE a faster rod then either the 101 or the 7', 4wt .. 98. It is considered one of the 10 best tapers of all time. Also look at the stress charts. Note that I said essentially, as I am not a man of taper numbers but of feel. Yo! 30 - .150 (John Channer). This guide does not cover issues related to printing labels with the third party dymo labelwriter software. (Ralph Tuttle), Some sites say deduct .004 from the taper for varnish, and some don't say anything. I would call it medium/fast and very pleasant to fish with, a bit snappier than Dickerson's 6611. It casts well enough that I wanted the taper. Drop the line to 4 and the curve is an almost exact match for one of the 200s I've made which is a 5 and one I through bass bugs with. (Ken Paterson).     60  .226 ↳   Rod makers history, value guide and general discussion, ↳   Link to Orvis Database by Greg Reynolds, ↳   Link to EC Powell's Mechanics of fly casting. 10 - .355                      10 - .2255                10 - .135     15         .124 Huuhteluletkut, Imuletkut, Huuhtelusuuttimet, Liittimet, Letkukelat, Kaasumittarit, Viemärikamerat, Käytetyt imu/painelaitteet. (Gary Nicholson), I cast a Payne Parabolic made by Rich Margiotta at a gathering last summer in Townsend, TN. (Steve Weiss). They  are  mostly over .003/inch. I think we know a lot more about rod design these days. David Ray's Taper Library. After searching the internet I found only a 204 taper.      85          0.300          0.150, Bill, go into Hexrod and change either the Payne 100 or the 100h to 3 piece, depending on which you want to build. (Neil Savage).     40         .196 (4.0 oz. The taper I have for the Payne 8 foot 3 piece 5 wt. Can someone help me with the correct L and H Taper?      80          0.300          0.150     90         .353 But somehow I sense it will be more difficult than I think! Do the numbers reflect a .004 deduction for varnish or is .004 the recommended amount to reduce the numbers shown? It has been tweaked to suit his ideas of taper design. My friend Mike uses his with a 6. And I think to enlarge the Tip from 0.063 to 0.074. (Jim Lowe), I'm hoping to make a Payne 101 as my next rod. the step down ferrule and what I have previously referred to as the gorilla butt. 4.7 out of 5 stars 6,977. 2 piece – A nice med-fast action rod based on the 100H The typical all-around rod. I prefer 2 piece rods, but that’s not a show-stopper.      45          0.180          0.090 (John Channer), That should be .173 and .190. Met onze taperoller sluit, wikkelt of bundelt u uw verpakkingsmateriaal snel en eenvoudig en zorgt u ervoor dat uw pakketten veilig worden verzonden. They are, when you get the timing right, cannons. I have never had a buyer complain about this taper. Rod Name Payne Canadian Canoe Period.  5     .385    .262    .164 (Scott Turner), I made a Payne 98 (7', 4 wt.) Kraftpapieren tape van RAJA is sterk, soepel en heel makkelijk af te scheuren. Paynes aside, I am open to suggestion here. Payne 104, 2/2, 8 1/2', 5 1/4 ounces measured over varnish, 1" = .075 I would agree without taking the 6 thou it's a 7wt but with 6 thou off it's got to be a 6wt. These are the tapers in David Ray's library, in the order that they appear.     95         .353 The rest of the post....Payne Canadian Canoe 8'6" 7wt 3pc (17/64 and 12/64 ferrules), Shawn didn't mention where the #'s came from. They look to me like parabolic tip sections mated to fast butt sections. 5/6 line weight. Yes, Tim...agree. (Gary Nicholson), Payne Canadian Canoe 8.5 Ft 7 Wt (Rich Margiotta), My understanding is that the average joe has trouble casting. by crcaddis » 03/30/10 09:08, Post 15   .333    .237    .139 Short casts off the tip, 'average fishing range' casts, and double-hauling out to 70'-80' and beyond, it never failed to impress. These two are in David Rays taper library and RodDNA. (Peter McKean), I agree, I made a Dickerson 8015. Examples of what I’d provide, if  someone asked me about Paul Young rods (those I’m most familiar with). It is smooth and has enough power to cast just about any fly you would need to with that size rod. Up-locking aluminum hardware over walnut spacer. Would anyone be willing to share the taper or point me in the right direction where I might find it? The next rod I want to make should become a #5-6, 8.5 footer. 20    .311    .229    .125 Steve Blake masterfully restored the rod's varnish and bluing. Remember that the tapers changed slightly from the three eras of Jim Payne rods (now, I am just approximating eras here). 0.058 , Furnace user manuals, operating guides & specifications Does anyone have experience with both of these rods, they appear very close to being equal, but i dont have either so thats a guess on my part, any info would be helpful before i go an buy one. I understand that  Payne struggled with the whole idea of para rods According to Schwiebert, much of  the Payne Parabolics' development  was done by John Alden Knight and Charles Ritz. Some of the taper libraries out there list model numbers associated with the parabolics...that's wrong...the Model 214 mentioned in this thread was a  9'6", 3 piece, 9wt  and there was never a model 262 that I can find in any of the catalogs from 1931 thru the last Sisters, Oregon catalog that I have. In the sense of the P&M and Young tapers, the A-taper might be called anti-parabolic since it results in a very much tip action rod, while the C-taper is parabolic like them. The  Streamer rods, the Bass Bug rod, the Circular Bend Trout rod, the Spinning rods, the Bonefish rods and the Parabolics.     62  .229 A few years later, I tried a different--heavier--reel and I like it a lot that way. The 101 is the fluid taper throughout without any loss of feel. * This taper was developed by Jim Payne and first sold by the E.F. Payne Company in 1931. To quote what Mike wrote on Clarks: "Rev. Just occurred to me no one specks of the Payne parabolics..Well I guess that answers it. (Gary Nicholson). 55 - .228 (Joe Arguello), Looks to me as if Payne didn't make many Para's either that or I don't have them. I cast this rod at CRR, and loved it. I guess H stands for heavy and L for light. A bit more length, but not so much that it puts it out of the same category as the P97. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. Hi, this is max payne hehe.Press s00bskrib if u liek and like if you don't. Had to sell it off for some medical expenses years back, but had Hal make me another (his 198L, wherein he lightens the tip taper) that casts a DT-4 Phoenix silk poetically. What is your favorite Payne taper that would fit the following criteria? Is this correct? Bill, go into Hexrod and change either the Payne 100 or the 100h to 3 piece, depending on which you want to build. Thanks for the taper, it looks like a great rod. 10 1/2 The wraps are the Payne-typical brown silk tipped with gold. One of the favorites in the rod evaluation event. When I first cast this rod, I fell in love with it. 0.295 25 7/8 My friend and bamboo guru,  rodmaker Syd Smith, let me cast his version of the Payne 201 just last week. Welcome to my channel, Stick around for a bit and have a look through some of my videos. The rod weighs 3 5/8 oz. A rod suited for larger western river fishing (if that  really means anything!?). Max Payne (computerspelserie), een reeks computerspellen Max Payne (computerspel), het eerste spel in de Max Payne-serie Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne, het tweede spel in de Max Payne-serie; Max Payne 3, het derde spel in de Max Payne-serie; Max Payne (film), een actiefilm uit 2008 -------      60          0.218          0.109     55         .239      55          0.203          0.102 Thanks for the info maybe I will try again. By RBF Staff, May 23, 2009 in RodBuildingForum.com Recent Topics. Yeah I know;  but, Mike swears it's a 100 3 piece one-off made by Payne and marked that way. Can somebody give me the tapers or a recommendation where I can find it? To add a bit to your thoughts on 8'0" rods, I believe that the Gillum 8'0" 6 weight as detailed in The Lovely Reed is a better and more pleasant rod than the Dickerson. But I thought you had a WF6 line on this one Steve?? 0.115 ↳   Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. A Payne 201 was a 3-piece, 2-tip, 8' 5wt rod. 61 1/16     55  .218 45 - .205 What is the experience of any of you who have made #102 or cast one? Many early carbon rods seemed to suffer from a similar affliction, Bruce and Walker and the Shakespeare boron that everyone except me raved about being the other, it was a 9'10'' #9. 0     .385    .268    .172 What am I missing? It looks like a 6 wt to me. It will be my first venture out of the Paul Young taper family. The tip itself seems to have the stress curve of a parabolic rod and the butt is stronger. Any opinions I have are personal preferences that are influenced  by my casting style and the type of fishing I do. It has a very fine tip as I remember. The balance never felt "right" to me before. None of the evaluators at CRR thought that it was over-lined. IT IS TWEAKED. If so, is the 204L the dry fly and the 204H the nymph rod? It took a while to figure it out, he gives the #’s from the butt of each section, then 5" up for each section etc. (Steve Weiss).      Rod Name Payne 100 Built on a Payne taper. (Dennis Higham), I'm partial to the 96, a 6'6" 4 wt. When I have a look at the taper I think the dimension of the tip is to small. I’m hoping this will be a fairly  straightforward question.  5 - .078 34 (against the female ferrule)     40  .176 0.152 Fishing it all day will wear out your arm. (Neil Savage) I believe Mike Brooks has the taper of an actual 3 piece 100 made by Payne. If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article. Payne 100 taper Sign in to follow this . I've looked through the Hex rod list. My records are pretty incomplete from years ago, but the reason I am asking for some help here is that I seem to recall that years ago I built this 202 rod (claimed by the 1951 Payne catalogue to be Fast DF action) only to find it to be pretty slow and deliberate; like, I am afraid, most 3-piece 8 footers I have built.     50  .208 Here they are, from an original, measured with my own grubby hands. (Pete Van Schaack), I'll second the Payne 101. It moved way up on my list of rods to build. I kindly request members of the list for some guidance on this matter. with up-locking hardware) All sections are full length and straight. 30 -  257                      30 - .1755                30 - .071 They all have had the very reddish colored cane and English guides. I am looking for a Payne 98 taper and would like to hear from anyone who has a nice version as I gather there are quite a few. Hal can give you better insight than I.  I  am looking forward to casting the 198L next to the 100 and adding in a Leonard 65L for comparison. I'm not sure if the following numbers are the L or H taper of the 204 rod. Allowance for form setting 0 (Bob Norwood), I'd fish with a 4.     86  .3325 Maybe the 0.006 for varnish is too much? IIRC, there was a Dickerson 8014 there that year. Anything else in Payne under 7 1/2' is going to be medium fast. (Hal Manas), I should have mentioned that there are a several  Payne Parabolic tapers out there. Cap and band reel seat over cork.      Construction Hex 66 5/16 (against the female ferrule) Suche ein Taper aus und melde es uns mit diesem ONLINE FORMULAR Durch Anklicken des Modells kannst du das Taper herunterladen 5" = .089 That also, is not parabolic. This may explain why there are 4 Payne Paras in Rod DNA in the 7-8 ft 3-5 wt range . ↳   Information About Makers and Manufacturers, ↳   Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. for a faster, but great dry or nymphing rod. 10 -.103 0.275 If you compare the figures with eg. 45" = .214 First ..What Rich said...4 models and the 7'6" never cataloged..the Payne paras are not really parabolic as we think of parabolic today. If you want all the fly rod tapers in a single MS Excel file, I've got it here: drtapers.xlsx. The requester would prefer that the taper was a Payne, but that is secondary to the quick action. (Dennis Higham). (Bill Walters). I'll choose the one I think fits me best. Bekijk … (Peter  McKean), I've decided to build a Payne because of how often they get mentioned here. (Steve Weiss). What species do fish for with your bamboo rods. The two well publicized tapers are so dissimilar as to be totally different rods, one being a fast action, Dickerson like (from Ron Barch), the other much deeper flexing although the latter is reported as being a modified taper (Ted Knott). 9 3/4 (Robin Haywood), Anybody have the taper for a 3-piece Payne 100? fast action. I also like rods 7’ or longer. However, my taper was modified using RodDNA, and it is not consistent with having been derived from David Ray's using either controlled modification or stress values. 25    .311    .229    .125 15 -.118 I think the taper submitted by George Maurer might be like this with the number of compounds that show in the stress curve(not Dennis Higham's submission). Here are the measurements for the rod with the tip I used. Tervetuloa Payne of Spåra Group´in kotisivuille! not much to choose from. Payne 204L. Never looked at them in any great detail Tom but I am going to have a close look now. I seem to remember that a few experimental 7'7" rods were made and sold, but I can't find a reference. I’m thinking about what to build  for rod #4 and would like to build a Payne. How does this work? I think you would find that the only difference between our methods is that for empirical changes I use a computer instead of of charcoal on a rock.     10         .104 20   .311    .229    .125 Did they all miss the boat in not going convex? 30" = .172 Powell actually specified the half-dimension of taper, that is the strip dimension at six inch spaced stations. Now my question: Can somebody tell me his experience with this rod. Erectile dysfunction is often a symptom of another issue, such as cardiovascular disease or diabetes. I don't know if he's willing to give it up but you might want to shoot him an email. 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